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EMG

> Jose wrote:
>
> > Thanks for the kind words about Ping Pong. I was very unhappy about
> > the game at the time, but I now feel it was quite good.
>
> I think the conversion was perfect. The coin-op -I think- has a Z80
> processor (is it?). The graphics, obviously, aren't the same, but the
> game I think was near exactly.

I agree.

> :-) Excuse my English, Doug...it's not very well, but better than my
> italian, Enrico :-)

And much better than my Spanish. :-)

EMG

> >To help me - what are the Spanish words for
>
> >Up
> Arriba/Subir
> >Down
> Abajo/Bajar
> >Left
> Izquierda
> >Right
> Derecha
> >Fire
> Fuego
>
> >:^o

Cheers!

>
> >Doug
>
> Doug, do you give me permisson to publish some words of our
conversation on my page (and some more we'll have)? I think it could
be interesting to the visitors.

Yes, that would be no problem at all :^)

Doug

>
> Jose.

--- In ZX_Spectrum@egroups.com, "Jose" <josveg@t...> wrote:
> >Message: 8
> >   Date: Tue, 30 May 2000 18:00:43 -0000
> >   From: "Doug Burns" <dougburns@y...>
> >Subject: Re: Author of Ping Pong
>
> I think the conversion was perfect. The coin-op -I think- has a Z80
processor (is it?). The graphics, obviously, aren't the same, but the
game I think was near exactly.

I don't know what processor it was, but you could be right. We had
the arcade machine in the office at Ocean so that we could copy it,
but all I did was to play it, look at it and copy it. I don't know
enough about hardware to think about how it worked (it had a lot of
electronics inside!)

>
> :-) Excuse my English, Doug...it's not very well, but better than
my italian, Enrico :-)

I really appreciate everyone's English is very good. I wish I could
speak even a tiny bit of your language to show my appreciation.

The three Batman games are at this link (which covers all of Joff's
games) ...

http://www.void.jump.org/infoseekpub.cgi?
regexp=Jonathan+Smith&model=spectrum

--- In ZX_Spectrum@egroups.com, Enrico Maria Giordano
<e.m.giordano@f...> wrote:
>
>
> Doug Burns wrote:
> >
> > I can't remember the names, but they weren't the John Ritman ones.
> > They featured Batman walking around in a view similar to Tir Na
Nog,
> > or Frankie. It was like a cartoon and he would walk around,
picking
> > things up. All by Ocean.
>
> Maybe "Batman - The caped crusader"? Or the last, "Batman - The
movie"?
> I think the first, that shows a window for each room, just like a
> cartoon.
>
> EMG

Doug Burns wrote:
>
> I can't remember the names, but they weren't the John Ritman ones.
> They featured Batman walking around in a view similar to Tir Na Nog,
> or Frankie. It was like a cartoon and he would walk around, picking
> things up. All by Ocean.

Maybe "Batman - The caped crusader"? Or the last, "Batman - The movie"?
I think the first, that shows a window for each room, just like a
cartoon.

EMG

--- In ZX_Spectrum@egroups.com, Enrico Maria Giordano
<e.m.giordano@f...> wrote:
>
> Maybe you missed the two game that I consider the absolute
masterpieces
> for the Spectrum: R-Type (Electric Dreams 1987) and Shadow of the
beast
> (Gremlin 1990). If so, I suggest you to give a try to them. They are
> both 48k multiload games.

I tried R-Type for the first time last week - it is fantastic! But
this is after a lot of experience of Spectrum programming - most of
the games got much better after 1986. I haven't tried Shadow of the
Beast yet, but I will. Thanks for the recommendation ;-)

>
> > To help me - what are the Spanish words for
> >
> > Up
>
> Arriba.
>
> > Down
>
> Abacho
>
> > Left
>
> Izquerda
>
> > Right
>
> Derecha
>
> > Fire
>
> I don't remember at the moment.

Cheers and thank you.

>
> EMG

I can't remember the names, but they weren't the John Ritman ones.
They featured Batman walking around in a view similar to Tir Na Nog,
or Frankie. It was like a cartoon and he would walk around, picking
things up. All by Ocean.

I have lost contact with Joffa, but will try to find him.


--- In ZX_Spectrum@egroups.com, Enrico Maria Giordano
<e.m.giordano@f...> wrote:
>
>
> Doug Burns wrote:
> >
> > Long live Joffa - a proper programming hero
> >
> > List of games ...
> >
> > [...]
> > Daley Thompson's SuperTest and Decathlon (shared)
>
> Top sport simulation! Wonderful games!
>
> > and three Batman games
>
> Which exactly?
>
> EMG
>
> PS. If you are still in contact with Joffa could you ask him to join
> with us?

Cari amici, abbiamo un nuovo iscritto:

> This is an automated email message to let you know that
> tspratt@... joined your ZX_Spectrum group.

Welcome!

EMG

Roberto Montaruli wrote:
>
> Io sono stato via una settimana al mare quindi non c'entro.

Ben tornato! :-)

EMG

Doug Burns wrote:
>
> I just had a look at some of the Spanish games on your site and
> they're great! As I suspected, many of them were written after I had
> left the industry, but the programming looks cool (good scrolling,
> flicker/free sprites). I'm *very* impressed ...

Maybe you missed the two game that I consider the absolute masterpieces
for the Spectrum: R-Type (Electric Dreams 1987) and Shadow of the beast
(Gremlin 1990). If so, I suggest you to give a try to them. They are
both 48k multiload games.

> To help me - what are the Spanish words for
>
> Up

Arriba.

> Down

Abacho

> Left

Izquerda

> Right

Derecha

> Fire

I don't remember at the moment.

EMG

Doug Burns wrote:
>
> Long live Joffa - a proper programming hero
>
> List of games ...
>
> [...]
> Daley Thompson's SuperTest and Decathlon (shared)

Top sport simulation! Wonderful games!

> and three Batman games

Which exactly?

EMG

PS. If you are still in contact with Joffa could you ask him to join
with us?

>
> Sara' mica quello che si vede la racchetta in primo piano e si
> tira di dritto e di rovescio !?
> Ci ho passato le notti a quel giochino...

E' quello !!

--- Davide Barlotti <davideb@...> wrote:
> > > Doug Burns wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for including the game I wrote on your site. It
> brings back
> > > good memories.
> >
> > You are really the guy who wrote Konami's Ping Pong for the
> Spectrum?
> > Wow! Its place in my little work is totally deserved.
> >
> > Thank you for this e-mail.
> >
> > Bye.
> >
> > EMG
>
> Ah ! mi ricordo che lo avevo trovto su una cassetta in
> edicola
> (mi sembra Special Playgames...) devo dire che il gioco mi
> piaceva
> molto anche se ero negato.. :(

Sara' mica quello che si vede la racchetta in primo piano e si
tira di dritto e di rovescio !?
Ci ho passato le notti a quel giochino...

> Dovevo sforzarmi per concentrarmi ad usare la giusta risposta
>
> ma ahime' immancabilmente sbagliavo e mi ci incaz...
>
Si, pure io... quante incazzature...



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--- Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@...> wrote:
>
>
> Davide Barlotti wrote:
> >
>
> > C'e' qualcuno che ha mai sperimentato il network con lo
> Spectrum ?
>
> Io no.
Io si!!!
Due gommosi connessi via interface 1
E c'era anche un giochino da farsi via network...
Non ricordo piu' neanche che cos'era... mi pare un agente
segreto contro una spia...


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--- Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@...> wrote:
> Cari amici, abbiamo un abbandono:
>
> > This is an automated email message to let you know that
> > joseluis.perez@... unsubscribed from your
> ZX_Spectrum
> > group.
>
> Un'altra cosa: cos'è questo silenzio di tomba che incombe da
> qualche
> giorno sulla mailing-list?

Io sono stato via una settimana al mare quindi non c'entro.
Comunque trovo ben 89 nuovi messaggi quindi deduco che il
silenzio sia cessato.
Un attimo di pazienza che mi riporto in pari...

>
> EMG
>
>
>


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I just had a look at some of the Spanish games on your site and
they're great! As I suspected, many of them were written after I had
left the industry, but the programming looks cool (good scrolling,
flicker/free sprites). I'm *very* impressed ...

To help me - what are the Spanish words for

Up
Down
Left
Right
Fire

:^o

Doug


--- In ZX_Spectrum@egroups.com, "Jose" <josveg@t...> wrote:
> Ciao a tutti!
>
> Long time ago since I wrote last message to the list, but I read
all the messages always...
>
> Wow! The author of Ping Pong! Hi Doug!!
>
> It is one of my favourite games for Spectrum ever...It's an
excellent conversion!!
>
> Doug, I'm spaniard. What do you think about the Spanish games
published by Ocean/Imagine, like Basket Master, Game Over, Army
Moves...and other games if you know others?
>
> Ciao!!
>
> computer emuZone
> http://emuzone.metropoli2000.net
> Giochi spagnoli per lo Spectrum e per altri computer

> Jose wrote:
>
> computer emuZone
> http://emuzone.metropoli2000.net
> Giochi spagnoli per lo Spectrum e per altri computer

Have you changed your address? What about Spectrum Zone?

EMG

John was one of the freelance programmers that Ocean used - and a
fantastic programmer too. Unfortunately he was never in the office
while I was there, so I never had the chance to meet him and know as
much about him as you do.

Sorry.

--- In ZX_Spectrum@egroups.com, Enrico Maria Giordano
<e.m.giordano@f...> wrote:
>
>
> dougburns@y... wrote:
> >
> > I remember many stories about Imagine, Ocean and Odin (where I
> > worked), so if anyone has any questions about games or
programmers, I
> > may be able to answer.
>
> You are a precious resource for us! Do you remember John Ritman
(Batman
> 3D, Head over Heels)? What can you tell us about him?
>
> EMG

Green Beret was written by my best friend - Jonathan Smith (a.k.a.
Joffa Smifff). He was an absolute genius as a programmer and artist
and wrote dozens of games. He also wrote Cobra - which was mentioned
in a previous posting. He had scroll routines that others could not
match.

He was writing Green Beret while I was writing Ping Pong and they
were reviewed in the same issue of Crash. I got just a little better
review, but could not believe it because his program was much better.
I suppose Ping Pong looked more different to other games. Joff did a
*lot* of scrolling games, but that was because Ocean/Imagine knew
that he was good so they kept him very busy.

Long live Joffa - a proper programming hero

List of games ...

Xmaze
Santa
Runaway Robot
Beatcha
Pud Pud
Kong Strikes Back
Daley Thompson's SuperTest and Decathlon (shared)
Hypersports
Mikie
Green Beret
Cobra
Terra Cresta
Hysteria
Hyperactive
Firefly
and three Batman games



--- In ZX_Spectrum@egroups.com, Enrico Maria Giordano
<e.m.giordano@f...> wrote:
>
>
> Doug Burns wrote:
> >
> > > > Hello Doug, I memory of to have read itself in some review
that
> > > > the programmer of the Imagine very were paid,
>
> I like two games of the Imagine production, other than Ping Pong:
Green
> beret (1986) and Arkanoid 2 (1988).
>
> > One, because I didn't finish it (Grog's Revenge - US Gold)
>
> By US Gold I like Leaderboard (1986), Solomon's key (1987) and
Ghouls
> and ghosts (1989).
>
> > and the other because it was no good (P.L.O.D. - Odin).
>
> And by Odin I like only Heartland (1986).
>
> EMG

Spain was probably the biggest overseas market for the Spectrum and
was the second home of the Spectrum I think. I don't know much about
the programming in Spain because I think it increased after I left
games.

Ocean put a lot of work in to selling games in Spain, much more than
other software houses.

Thanks for the kind words about Ping Pong. I was very unhappy about
the game at the time, but I now feel it was quite good.

Cheers,

Doug

--- In ZX_Spectrum@egroups.com, "Jose" <josveg@t...> wrote:
> Ciao a tutti!
>
> Long time ago since I wrote last message to the list, but I read
all the messages always...
>
> Wow! The author of Ping Pong! Hi Doug!!
>
> It is one of my favourite games for Spectrum ever...It's an
excellent conversion!!
>
> Doug, I'm spaniard. What do you think about the Spanish games
published by Ocean/Imagine, like Basket Master, Game Over, Army
Moves...and other games if you know others?
>
> Ciao!!
>
> computer emuZone
> http://emuzone.metropoli2000.net
> Giochi spagnoli per lo Spectrum e per altri computer

Doug Burns wrote:
>
> > > Hello Doug, I memory of to have read itself in some review that
> > > the programmer of the Imagine very were paid,

I like two games of the Imagine production, other than Ping Pong: Green
beret (1986) and Arkanoid 2 (1988).

> One, because I didn't finish it (Grog's Revenge - US Gold)

By US Gold I like Leaderboard (1986), Solomon's key (1987) and Ghouls
and ghosts (1989).

> and the other because it was no good (P.L.O.D. - Odin).

And by Odin I like only Heartland (1986).

EMG

>
>
> Davide Barlotti wrote:
> >
> > Other thing that I wanted to ask to you is like never the many waits
> > versions
> > of SuperCar and StreetHawk has been found of the colossal ones flop :(
>
> As far as I can remember, there have been no good movie-based games.
> Maybe the movie subject don't give enough inspiration to the game
> designers. It leaves too little space for fantasy, I think.
>
> EMG
>

Yes , but ,for me, there is some very good:
Bruce Lee Dataeast
The Goonies "
Cobra Ocean (cool sound on Speccy !!)

DB/S4E

David,

This will be a quick reply, because I've just started my new contract and they
don't like personal email.

>> Hello Doug, I memory of to have read itself in some review that the
>> programmer of the Imagine very were paid, some had the Porsche! it is true?

There were many very cool and expensive cars - Aston Martin Vantage, Ferrari
Boxer, Mondiale (?) and 328 (?), Porsche and Eugene Evans (Wacky Waiters) was
bought a Lotus Esprit when he passed his driving test! Eugene was the youngest
guy in the company, me the second youngest, so we used to go cruising in it!
Mark Butler (one of the main directors) had a racing motorbike.

However, there were many stories about Eugene earning £35000 per year, which
were all made up, and the cars were not purchased, but leased. So there was not
so much money as appeared. Particularly when they went bust! Most of the
programmers and artists were on *very* low wages though. I earned £3500 per
year.

>> Other thing that I wanted to ask to you is like never the many waits
>> versions
>> of SuperCar and StreetHawk has been found of the colossal ones flop :(
>> (me memory that I watched always their television film and I waited for
>> with anxiety the versions for the spectrum but that disappointed when they
>> exited...)

Normally it would be the programmers fault, to be honest. Two games I was
working on were never released. One, because I didn't finish it (Grog's Revenge
- US Gold) and the other because it was no good (P.L.O.D. - Odin). The company
would not have time or money to re-write it, so they would just publish rubbish.
If they did decide to do the job again properly, it would sometimes go wrong
again and they would look stupid (example - StreetHawk !!!)

>> You can say greater information to us on the game that you would
>> want to make for the Spectrum? 8)


More, later.

>> Bye
>> DavideBarlotti/Speccy4Ever
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Davide Barlotti wrote:
>
> Other thing that I wanted to ask to you is like never the many waits
> versions
> of SuperCar and StreetHawk has been found of the colossal ones flop :(

As far as I can remember, there have been no good movie-based games.
Maybe the movie subject don't give enough inspiration to the game
designers. It leaves too little space for fantasy, I think.

EMG

dougburns@... wrote:
>
> I remember many stories about Imagine, Ocean and Odin (where I
> worked), so if anyone has any questions about games or programmers, I
> may be able to answer.

You are a precious resource for us! Do you remember John Ritman (Batman
3D, Head over Heels)? What can you tell us about him?

EMG